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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:20 am Post subject: 96 Moves Anyone?
My fiance got a certified letter from the plant today. Considering he has been laid off for over a year now, we were more than hopeful when he opened it. One page said for him to be considered for a 96 to fab, he had to fill out the other paper. The other paper was an accept/decline form and stated he was being offered a production job in fab. So does this mean if he accepts, he will be given a rtw date or does it mean he is just in the pool for when they need people?
They probably sent the letter to everyone that is eligible. When they find out how many accept, then they will go by seniority until they get the number they need. Someone on here should know how many they put in fore.
I have not recieved a letter yet did he put in awhile back when they sent out the first form? And if i may ask what is his seniority
His seniority is very late. 6/30/08.
I talked to my committeeman last night and he told me it is NOT an actual job offer. The paperwork if filled out will transfer him to fab and put him on the layoff list there until a job comes available. He said filling out the paperwork will not get him back to work any sooner and may actually delay his getting back to work as opposed if he stays in assembly. He also reminded me that fab is a high seniority plant and that a person with low seniority is at higher risk of being laid off from there than from GA. I guess there are 165 jobs that will need filled at fab over the next couple of months. They are expecting when body shop moves over there, they will have to call more people back from layoff in order to fill jobs.
I did Cruze training last week and the launce person training me on all the jobs told me that as of right now, all kitting, subassembly and sequencing jobs on the Cruze will be tier II jobs and tier II employees will not work on the actual cars. This goes back to the whole core and non-core thing that they wanted to implement before, which is the way it is technically supposed to be for the lower-wage employees. The launch person told me this should bring more jobs into the assembly plant and more people back from layoff.
I was told last night by several people that third shift is to be returning within the next couple of months in order to ramp up production of the Cobalt before the build out. The plant will remain on the ten hour schedule, which means the third shift will do a swing shift and work every weekend. I do not know how true this is, but I've heard it from quite a few different people and some of them usually seem to know things if you know what I mean.
I would make sure the letter is not a refusal to work. If it is considered that, he may be doing a voluntary quit?
Already made sure of it. It is a voluntary move offer, not a forced move.
Forced moves are a new thing. Any other time you turned down an offer it was a refusal to go to that site. Used to be you only got once chance to accept area hire and three for extended area hire. I would make double sure Corvina.
Joined: Jan 23, 2009 Posts: 283 Location: Lordstown
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:43 pm Post subject:
I think it is complete bs about the seniority there, when I transferred to Lordstown, another guy I knew with the same seniority as me transferred to the Lordstown fab plant, we got laid off at the same time and he actually went back sooner than me. If you can hold 3 shifts at the assembly plant, you can hold 3 shifts at the fab plant. Although if it were me personally, I wouldn't take it because his chances are about the same with either plant, and he is your fiance so if he won't benefit either way, then you would probably want to be in the same plant as him correct? I wanted to go to the fab plant, even talking about it is making me angry right now. I have a mailman that only seems to deliver about half of my mail to me, he lost the certified letter to go to the fab plant a few months ago, as well as a package I recently ordered. I wanted to go to the fab plant, but our union said it was too late and I missed the deadline.
It doesn't really bother me that much though because I strongly believe that the unions between the two plants will merge in the near future.
Joined: Jan 23, 2009 Posts: 283 Location: Lordstown
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:24 pm Post subject:
Although I believe we got more than enough people volunteer to take 96 moves, it seems that our local was trying to talk everyone out of going to the fab plant. I wonder why they would do that? if no one would have offered to go, it would have resulted in a layoff. The more people they took in volunteers, the better it is for people to have jobs that want to work at 1112. I have heard some pretty silly things about going there. Like "I think I am more safe in the assembly plant because I have 600 people under me here and I would only have like 70 there." The assembly plant requires what? Roughly 900-1,000 people per shift, the fab plant maybe only a couple hundred. If a shift was axed at the assembly plant, this person couldn't hold at either plant with it gone. So I guess I don't really understand that line of thinking.
I don't really care which plant he is in, I would ust like to see him get called back to work instead of hating life at the job he has taken in the meantime. We never worked in the same department, so it is not like we are used to being attached to each other's hips at work. We saw each other on one break a day and after work.
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